Chapter 6 of 12 · 14 min
Find the right person, and keep it above board
By the end of this chapter you will be able to
- find a first name and a role in five minutes from a venue's website
- email the promoter, DM second, and know when the phone comes last
- keep your address book as what it is: relationships
info@ is a door, not a wall. A first name at the top of the email, and someone passes it on.
Take ten venue websites, any ten, and look for the email address. Nine times out of ten you'll get info@, hello@ or bookings@, and bookings@ means room hire. A shared inbox, read by whoever's on shift, who isn't the person putting the gigs on. Half the time the person putting the gigs on doesn't work there at all: they hire the room on a Thursday. In our database, UK venues that publish a direct booking address are a small minority of those with an email at all, and it's the same next door.
That's not a dead end. It's a door with someone behind it, and we're going to find out their name. Priya's email to Spare Room has been sitting in info@ for eight days.
First, a first name
Before you write, find a first name and a role. In the order that works best:
- The venue's bookings, hire or about page. Grassroots venues often say outright “we don't book in-house, contact these promoters”, with names. Trap: the licensee on the sign above the door and the director in the company footer sign the contracts, they don't pick the bands.
- Posters and past events. The promoter's logo in the corner of the poster, the “presented by” on the ticket page, with their own page a click away.
- Thanks from bands who've played there. “Cheers to Tom for having us”: a first name, and proof the venue takes bands like you.
- Local listings blogs and press, which name the promoter every time they preview a night.
- Instagram search: the venue's name plus “presents” or “promotions”.
With a first name, your email to the generic address opens “Hi Kat,” and it changes nature: it's a message for someone, and whoever checks the inbox passes it on. Add the line that makes forwarding easy: “If someone else is putting the guitar nights on, could you forward this or point me their way?” It gives whoever's reading something they can actually do.
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Bookings, hire or about page (mind the licensee and the company director)
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Posters and past events: the promoter's logo, the “presented by”
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Thanks from bands: “Cheers to Tom for having us”
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Listings blogs and local press: the promoter is named
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Instagram search: venue name + “presents”
Quick check
Where do you find the first name of the person who books?
Often the licensee or the director, not the bookings. A start, not an end.
“Cheers Dave and the whole team”: that's where the first name is lying around. Check it against two posts.
Whoever created the event is often the person. And the poster names the promoter who runs the night.
Tap an answer. The quiz question is right after.
The page she should have read first
Eight days without a reply. Priya, Tuesday, 10am, tea going cold, goes back to Spare Room's website and clicks the one tab she'd skipped: Hire & bookings.
“We don't book bands in-house. The room is hired by promoters. Guitar nights: Bad Penny Promotions (Dave), Tuesdays and Thursdays. Low Ceiling, Fridays. In-house Saturdays: Kat. Please contact the promoters directly; we can't forward requests.”
Bad Penny's page, one click on: “Band submissions by email with SUPPORT in the subject and a live video. No DMs for first contact.” The 18 April is a Thursday.
Three minutes. A first name, an address, two nights a week, and a subject-line rule nobody would have guessed from the poster. The email goes out again at 10.40: “Subject: SUPPORT: Tarmac Daughters, 18 April, Spare Room: Wet Pavement. Hi Dave, found you via Spare Room's bookings page, after sending this to the room last week…”
Dave replies on the Thursday at 2.20pm: “Go on then. 18th, you open, 30 mins, get-in 6, bring the kit, £50 between you. Dave”
Hi Dave,
Found you via Spare Room's bookings page, after sending this to the room's info@ last Tuesday. Sorry for the detour.
You've got Tarmac Daughters on 18 April. We're Wet Pavement, three-piece garage-punk from Sheffield, for fans of Amyl and the Sniffers.
We can realistically bring 35 to 40 in Manchester, we lend the drum kit and the bass amp, thirty minutes, quick line check.
Our live set, two minutes: [link]
Priya, Wet Pavement, 07xxx xxx xxx
- 1The first name from the bookings page, and SUPPORT in the subject, as his page asks
- 2“Found you via the bookings page”: the email has a history, it hasn't come from nowhere
- 3The crowd number and the backline: the two lines Dave reads first
Email, DM, phone, in that order (and not everywhere)
The UK reflex is the email to the promoter. Then, three days later, one short DM to the promo's page or the pub's account, no link, one follow-up only. The phone comes last, and only for a pub that books its own back room: early afternoon, never during service or on a gig night.
Whatever the channel, the job is the same: get a name and an address, or move your email up the pile. Nobody's buying a pitch.
The DM, more or less:
“Hi [first name], [you] from [band] here ([style], [town]). Emailed you on Tuesday about a support on one of your nights in May. Live video's in the email. No worries if it's not for you, just making sure it didn't get lost.”
Three outcomes, all good. They give you a name and an address: you resend within the hour, mentioning the message. “That's me, I'll have a look”: you say thanks and leave it. “We don't do original bands”: you cross them off, you've just saved yourself two follow-ups.
Next door it works differently. In France the reflex is the phone: a twenty-second call to the bar in the early afternoon gets you the name. In Germany, many clubs and Kulturzentren write in black and white “Bandbewerbungen nur per Formular, keine telefonischen Anfragen”: you fill the form in to the letter, then follow up by email. If a venue has written down how it wants to be contacted, that's the only right method.
To the promoter, not the pub. Email first. Three days later, one DM to the promo's page, no link: “Hi Dave, Priya from Wet Pavement here (garage-punk, Sheffield). Emailed you Tuesday about the 18 April support. Live video's in the email. No worries if it's not for you, just making sure it didn't get lost.” The phone only for a pub that books its own back room, early afternoon.
Pubs, cafés-concerts, town halls, associations: the twenty-second call, early afternoon. “Bonjour, c'est [prénom] du groupe [nom], je vous ai envoyé une proposition de date par mail, est-ce que c'est vous qui vous occupez de la programmation ?” Funded venues: the email to the person on the team page is enough; the call is the day-eight follow-up.
“Bandbewerbung” on the club's or the Zentrum's website: fill it in field by field (Genre, Hörprobe, Publikum vor Ort, Wunschzeitraum), then follow up by email two weeks later. No call if the page says “keine telefonischen Anfragen”: you'd get the admin office, who'd note your name for the wrong reason.
The first-name hunt
Three made-up places, three ways of hiding a first name. For each one, read the snippets and find who books, with their role. Note where you found it too: in the DM, you'll say “saw it on your bookings page”.
Instagram second, phone last, and the rules of the game
A DM to the promo's page or the pub's account can unstick a silence, especially for pubs and small promoters, where the account is often run by the person who books. Short, no link in the first message (the filters would hide it), one follow-up. And never the personal account of a promoter you haven't met: you go from keen to creepy in a single message.
The rules of the game, for all three countries, fit in one sentence: one email at a time, written for that venue or that night, from your normal inbox, no mail-merge tool, no tracking pixel, your full signature, and a “won't email again” honoured from the first time they ask.
That's how the whole scene does it, and it's also what gets replies. The differences by country are in the tabs.
To an organisation or a promoter, a relevant professional message, with a clear identity and a way to say no. Individual, relevant, polite. The DM to a personal account at 11.40pm, no.
You write to a venue or a role, under your real name, from an address they can reply to, about something linked to what they do. You take anyone who asks off your list, the same day.
An individual, personalised proposal to a club that puts gigs on: what the whole scene does. The same email to hundreds of addresses through a mailing tool: what not to do, and Germany is stricter on this than anywhere, even between professionals. A “bitte keine Werbung”: removed in two minutes, with a word of apology, end of story.
Those forty lines are your address book
Look at your tracker. Forty lines, first names, the nights people do, a word to put in the subject, the name of a collective that puts six gigs a year on in a miners' welfare. What you've built over three chapters is your address book. It's worth what the relationships in it are worth: Dave who reads on the bus, Hannah who has a Thursday in May, Tom who replies in one line.
You keep it to yourself. Not as a file that does the rounds, not on a mailing platform, not lent to the band from the next town “to help them out”: every line only has value because it was you who looked, asked and wrote it down. Keep it up to date, and treat it as what it is: people, not a list.
Manchester · 150
Soundcheck
Three questions, a real situation each time. The explanation is worth reading even when you got it right.
Your slot
One single action, sized for an hour, on your own project.
For the first ten names on your list, five minutes each to find a first name, a role and the source. Note them on the venue's card. Target: six out of ten. For the four that resist, block an hour on Thursday for DMs to the promoters' pages, and the phone for any pub that books its own room.
A list of people
You've got a first name, an address, sometimes the night they do and a word to put in the subject. Your tracker has stopped being a list of venues and become a list of people. All that's left is to write to them.
- DaveThursday night, Manchester · promoterReads on the tram at half eight · subject: “Friday 20 March”
- SamFunded venue, Nottingham · programmerLocal support or First Thursday · subject: “First Thursdays”
- AshMonthly night, Nottingham · promoterFollow-up day 21 with news · email, then Instagram
- JeanVillage hall, Hope Valley · committeeAsks who books the summer dance · info@ and a forwarding line
- Angela WoodThe pub · licenseeNot the right door · find who books the Thursdays
- …35 more linesA first name, an address, a night, a word for the subject
A list of venues has become a list of people.
What you take away
- info@ is a door: a first name at the top of the email and a forwarding line, and someone passes it on.
- Email the promoter first, one DM to the promo's page three days later, the phone only for a pub that books its own back room. In Germany, the form.
- One email at a time, written for that night, from your normal inbox. Your forty lines are an address book, not a mailing list.
All chapters
- 1. Where you stand: where your project is, and what to aim for
- 2. Your EPK and booking kit: what a promoter looks at in two minutes
- 3. Who books what: the kinds of room and their three clocks
- 4. Build your target list: 40 well-chosen names beat 400
- 5. The side doors: support slots, gig swaps, competitions
- 6. Find the right person, and keep it above board
- 7. The email that gets replies
- 8. Follow up without nagging, and answer every reply properly
- 9. Fees, deals and negotiation
- 10. Confirm and prepare the date
- 11. Playing next door
- 12. Show day, the day after, and the routine that keeps it going
Written by the Stage-List team, drawing on our venue database and feedback from our customers. The legal and tax pointers in this guide are general information, correct at the time of writing; rates change, check the official page. The bands and bookers named are invented, their situations are not.